Upgrading my Fiber Prep system

Upgrading my Fiber Prep system

Earlier this spring we went out to Princess Auto to look at some fiber prep equipment, who would have thot they would have such fabulous fiber equipment. The item I was considering was on sale, but Glenn thought he could modify my small fleece washing bins. I was getting sore, so we headed home without it. I had not-buyers-Regret.

It’s now June, last week was very hot, sunny and perfect for washing fleeces, but I had no buckets ready to go.  I was finding it more and more difficult to use the large buckets and strainer baskets. Tipping the buckets when they were full of water was getting challenging. What I was looking at has a drainage system that a tap and hose could be attached to. That would eliminate the tipping of heavy buckets full of very dirty water.

We are very lucky, we live in a city with two Princess autos. I went online to see if the West End store had one in stock, nope, but the East End store has four. So off we went in my little KIA soul to find “the item”.

75galon stock tank black with a drain.1) LITTLE GIANT 75 Gallon Black Poly Stock Tank, SKU: 9281205, In Stock Online, 4 available for In Store $129.99

This is called a stock tank. It is meant to hold water for cows or horses. This seems to be the smallest size with a drain option.  This one is 48 x 34.5 x 18 in. (L x W x H). In larger sizes, they are also used by athletes for ice baths, and by koi as a backyard pool.

When we arrived at Princess Auto, we headed to the customer service desk. The nice lady immediately asked what I was driving. I said “a KIA”! Her response was “I hope it’s not a Soul”. “Why yes, my soul is grey, not black!” I replied. She looked worried and called the warehouse. She asked if they thought it might fit in a Kia Soul. They were sure it would. I added “with a walker?”  The answer was still “it should”. We were to browse for about 5 minutes, and then go pick it up at the back of the store.

Ooh Lovely!! Yes, that will probably fit in the car. I purchased it and a couple of other things we found while browsing and headed back to the car.  Glenn was able to put it in the back of the Kia Soul, and stuff the grocery bags in the tub and still have room for the walker too!

When the last renter next door moved out, he left a metal backless bench. It’s very rusted and doesn’t have a cushion. I was going to put plants on it. I think I have a better idea. Glenn found the hose extension and the tap attachment, which we hooked up to the tank, which is now sitting on the bench with a base of 3 4×4’s for extra support.

close up vew of tap and hose extender 2.1) The stock tank sitting on 3 4X4s on top of the metal bench. Connected to the drain is a hose extender, then the tap valve and the old hose to send the water down the driveway.

All right, I have a hypothesis. This should be easier to use than the big round bins I had been trying to bend over to lift baskets and tip the bin to drain. (Lately, it tended to get me wet and make me sore. But, they did work!) You have seen me use the strainer baskets in previous posts, but I have to go one basket at a time. I think I can do at least 3 baskets per wash in the stock tub, and just turning the drain should be much easier on my back.

Now I need a volunteer fleece to help me test out the new tub. Cupcake has volunteered! Thank you, Cupcake!

flece a mix of colours from dark brown to bage and grey 3.1) Cupcake is a BFL X Romney fleece, which was 6.4lbs. 

Normally, I would set up my skirting table, but I gave away the extra small rain barrels, which were part of its supports. Ok, it looks like it was well skirted, and not too much Vegi-matter. So let’s see if I can sort directly into the strainer baskets.

I gave the stock bin a quick rinse and realised the drain is over an inch up the side….. ok, there will need to be a bit of tipping to get the last bit of water out. Silly me, I got too excited to be fleece washing again and put the soap in before getting a couple of inches of water added. Oh well, the suds will dissipate, eventually.

added soap too soon as i added water stock tank now has water covered in suds3.2) Too many suds, I guess the fleece is about to have a bubble bath instead of scouring.

Since I don’t have hot water outside and I don’t have a space inside to set up to wash fleeces, the fleeces get a bath in the ambient temperature water. That’s ok, if there is a bit of lanolin left in the fleece, it works wonderfully to wind bird feet and toes.

Now let’s see how many bins I can fit in. I think I may be able to get four in the stock tank! The fleece is (6.4 lbs), and I split it into five bins. It’s a bit tight, but I can get 5 bins in.

5 strainer baskets in soap filled stock tank3.3) 5 bins just fit in this size!

There is a smaller size of strainer basket if I want to work in smaller amounts. What I have now is the larger one from Dollarama.

the soap is helping the wool get wet 3.4) The soap (not Detergent) helps with wetting the fibre as well as releasing the dirt. Look at all the fabulous colours in this fleece

soap has disapated, water is a shade of dark brown, the 5 bins sit in the stock tub3.5) A good soaking and suds-be-gone, so time to get out of the bath.

draining one bucket before hanging it up to finish dripping, the dark brown water is visible in the stock tank.3.6) Look at the dark brown colour of the soap wash water as fleece-filled strainer buckets are coming out. That sheep was dirtier than it looked!

starting to refill the stock tank (the tank has 3 rings each suggests it is 25 gallons. i will be filling to the first line so 25 gallons3.7) Rinse #1 refilling stock tank to the first ledge.

lighter brown water after fist rince 3.8) Rinse #1, after the strainer baskets have been removed, inside the stock tank, the water is getting closer to clean!

The inside of the stock tank has 3 stepped edges, which are spaced to suggest each is 25 gallons, since the total it can hold is 75 gallons. So, I am using about 25 gallons for each wash and rinse of five strainer buckets.

Rinse #2 cleaner still, but we were rushing against the weather, which was threatening rain. I also had a camera malfunction…. Both the battery died (I can recharge it) and the lens cap I just bought a week ago broke. I will order another one.

2 stranier buckets saoking in second rince Draing strainer basket by resting it on the edge of teh stock tank. you can see the water is closer to clean then rince 13.91-3.92) End of rinse #2. And resting the strainer bucket on the side of the rim to drain most of the water out before hanging it up to finish dripping.

I can not feel the lanolin, and the fibre feels quite clean. I have had to rinse out fine sand each time I clean out the stock tank. Did this sheep have a fabulous beach holiday?

Glenn is on holiday, and since we are not going to the States, he is helping me today. Two of the strainer baskets look like they need another rinse, but three are looking good. So each basket that seems clean gets gently dumped into the spin dryer.

RV hand washer spinner for cloths4.1) This is an RV washer/spin dryer.

Think of it like a giant salad spinner for clothes, er.. Fleece! There is a dial at the lower edge that can turn on the drain or keep the water in and rotate your clothes.  I set it to drain, and Glenn spun it for me! I found this at a second-hand store, recognised it as a wonderful fibre prep equipment, and bought it!!

the lid off teh RV washer spinner showing fleece inside4.2) just like a giant salad spinner (but I don’t advise it for clothes or salad after all the fleeces it’s been washing.

Glenn brought the drying racks (from Ikea) up from the basement and put them under the covered area of the back patio (the part that doesn’t have blacksmithing stuff)

sears Robuck light dutie farm forge, and larger forge under cover.5.1) the small forge, Sears-Roebuck light duty farm forge and the bigger forge under the large black cover.

We set one drying rack up behind the large forge and the other on the other side by the house.

the green strainer bucket is from the RV spin washer 5.2) The green bucket is handy to move the fleece to the drying racks.

first bucket full on driying rack with plastic owl watching in back grond wool is on ike cloths drying rack5.3) The plastic owl takes his job of guarding the wool seriously.

the patio behind the bigger forge, has 2 drying racks full of fleece, a rain barrel and wooden fence in background  5.4) Two buckets on the right drying rack, and one on the Left. The plastic owl is still supervising. I hope it keeps the evil chipmunk from “Helping”. He will be eating all my blackberries shortly!

blackbarry plants with flowers along the back of the brick house, blue tarp covers blacksmiths foot vice5.5) This is part of the blackberries along the house, and one of Glenn’s blacksmith footed vices under the blue tarp. It could be a very good crop of blackberries (which will make up for the rabbit cutting all the canes off at about a foot for the raspberries.

We pulled out the last two buckets to drain a bit before going onto the racks. And I got busy weeding and then adding more little plants of Tie basil and parsley to the planters. There is a bit more Thai basil and weeding to do, but it’s starting to drip.  What have we learned in previous summers about drying wool?  If you put wool out to dry, it will probably rain….

We moved the 2 draining buckets a bit closer to the overhang, moved the umbrella to give more cover and then put the drying fleeces back in their buckets and moved them and the racks under the cover of the dog-covered area of the side yard. I had a barking Cat, not a dog. He didn’t like to go out if it was raining, so we had to cover a section for him. It’s where I set up my outdoor studio. I haven’t got that sorted out yet this summer.

2 ikea cloths driying rack full of drying fleece5.6) Moved drying racks under cover to avoid the rain.

In the morning, the wind is up, and the fibre is still there, but still not dry. Ok, one drying rack when in front of the garage under the last umbrella, and the other went by the side door.

one drying rack moved under umbrella by garage one rack by side door wool is getting closer to dry but still is a bit damp5.7-5.8) I still have one strainer basket to put out to dry.

strainer basket of wool wating for space to put wool on drying rack5.9) The last strainer basket waiting for space on the drying racks.

I have been ready to start another fleece, but with the drying racks being full, I don’t have a spot to put them once they are washed. So this is the new bottleneck in fleece washing.

Let’s review the Stock tank: Pros /Cons

chart of pros and cons of the stock tank

6.1) Chart of pros and cons that I can think of for the stock tank as a fleece washing tool.

For those who want to see if the washing worked, let’s take a last look at this lovely fleece.

locks of wool draped accross fingers locks of wool Blue faced lester cross romni draped on ruler very crimpy lenght is up to about 3.5inches long7.1-7.2) Washed locks of BFL X Romni. The locks are very soft and crimpy. Unstretched, the locks range up to 3.5 inches

If you think this may work for you and are now thinking about a quest for a stock tank, look at farm supply stores if you don’t have access to such a diverse store like Princess Auto (they also have some blacksmithing equipment).

So I think the stock tank will be a great improvement to fleece washing. I will now have to figure out an upgrade to my fleece drying equipment. Maybe I will have to take the long, arduous, 7-stop sign (one is in their parking lot) trip to IKEA and get a third drying rack. I love an excuse to go to IKEA!!! (and it is just down the street, dangerously close to home.) I hope you are enjoying lovely fleece washing weather and getting some fun felting done while the fleeces are drying!

UPDATE: the Princess Auto Flyer just arrived. the 75 Gallon stock tack will be going on sale July 1-13th 2025, but the store is closed July 1st for Canada day. check on line, there may be a free shipping option. or watch for one at a garage sale!

21 thoughts on “Upgrading my Fiber Prep system

  1. That’s a great washing system you’ve created. It’s given me ideas for my own set up. Thank you for sharing!

    1. Thanks! i am having to get devious as i get older and things are getting heaver (sneeky of the big storage buckets to get harder to tip, they were so much lighter ever just a few years ago!) this should keep me going on feece washing for a few more years! if i add one more IKEA drying rack it should work almost perfectly. if the drain was just a bit lower i would not have to tip it. but the upgrade from the old big storage bukets is impresive.
      i saw an alternate way to drain water that was ment for draining fish tanks that i may try as well. it involves a long skiny U shape of PVC pipe. i will report back on how that gose.

  2. I think that that purchase was very good, it certainly seems to have enhanced your system.
    While you’re waiting for space on the drying racks, you could just put the next fleece (especially if it hasn’t been skirted) into the tank in plain water – rain water would be best or perhaps hard tap water with a bit of soda in it to soften it. Any “dirt” in the fleece will dissolve into the water and it should be easier to wash the fleece when you’re ready to move on to the washing. The dirty water in the tank should by then be liquid fertilizer which you can use to water the garden.
    That is a lovely fleece, what will you turn it into?
    Ann

    1. thanks Ann, there is a big storm comeing when the heat moves out so i will have rain water for filling part of the stock tank. i pulled out the other fleece bag to start the next one and discovered its alpaca! oops. i havnt washed one before i have spun alpaca still in the dust then washed after it was spun. i will have to do resurch!
      i will ask Glenn to check the garage for the missing fleeces. i think the long pre soak may be usefull . i can always add a bit of soap once i have most of the water in. (less like a bubble bath so you can see the fleece and the water)
      it is so lovely i am going to try combing a bit and see how that looks. i may sample a bit with the carders too. it is so soft and lovley. spinning my be what happens next.

    1. i am always amazed where we can find obviously fiber and felting tools. it is so strange that they are not labled as Fiber or Felting tools!!!
      i hope that this may give other fiber people ideas, they may even figure out something even better!
      i need to go to IKEA to get one more drying rack. i wonder what else i will find there?

    2. Ikea is a magical wonderland Jan. I can (and often do) get lost there, especially when I take a shortcut. I have passed on the link to your blog to Feltmakers Ireland – I suspect a lot of the subscribers will benefit from reading it!
      Helene x

  3. What would we do without Ikea drying racks – they’re great.
    Love your new system and it’s ingenious. The ‘salad spinner’ makes a lot of difference to the drying time for sure (and it would come in handy during power cuts to spin hand washed clothes).
    The washed fleece is lovely and should keep you supplied with needle felting wool for a long time.

    1. the spinner is realy handy but i am not sure i would want to use cloths in it now. its not realy dirty but since i am useing ambiant water temperature it has a bit of “ode du sheep” to it.
      i am going to test a bit with both comes and carders its so soft i may spin it. or make a few tiny sheep and use them locks for their curls.

  4. Great new system. You will have s much fleece to play with. Why not ad a 2×4 on top of the back 4×4 to give the tank a bit of an angle then more water would go out the hole. Also why not add some hooks to the back side so you can put the baskets on them to let them drain? I was wondering why you aren’t putting the rinse water on the garden?

    1. thanks!
      when i tip it forword the first 4×4 slides back and the tank partly rests on a bag of peetmoss.if i can score another bag of peetmoss for the the left side of the bench it would support the full wate of the almost empty stock tank. the hooks may work if i will check that out next fleece.
      i am worried about odd plants growing in the garden. that sheep had a few berrs in it.

  5. I love your method! I had my 19 sheep sheared earlier this month and just sitting there waiting for the moths… arghhh. I have an unused 500 gallon stock tank with drain out back that I am not using because every time it got so dirty I felt guilty just dumping it in arid New Mexico. I will now set it up by the garden to clean those fleeces. Of course, after I skirt them, sigh! So much work. No wonder wool is so expensive!

    1. New Mexico sounds so warm! maybe a trellice or umbrella beside the garden would cut the direct sun and make it easyer to work washing the wool. with such a big tank it will be harder to tip to drain. how about getting it so one corner and the drain side is a bit lower. if you use the odd U shaped PVC pipe trick for draining aqueriums that may remove the need to tip it.
      from what i saw, the idea was you put both ends of the U under water and tip it to get the air bubbles out. cover one end (Seal it with your thumb) and lift and rotate it out of the tub while keeping the other end under water. when you remove your thumb the U starts draining. i was going to try and see if i could get it to drain into a hose so the water didnt pool in front of my garage. i have seen a syfin used for aquariums but the demo i watched you had to suck on the pipe to get the water started….. i do not want to do that to sheep washing water espeshaly the first wash!!!
      you are so luky to have room to have your own sheep! did you pick spinnable/feltable sheep breeds? i live in the city so bylaw would notice if my “Dog” didnt bark but Baaa and tended to eat grass. i could try to disgize a sheep with a poodle cut?

    2. Jan you corpse me (technical term for inappropriate laughing on stage). I’d love to see a sheep with a poodle cut. You’d have to have a breed that had long fleece on it’s legs so you could cover up the cloven hooves with fluff.
      Alternatively you could have a wensleydale which looks like a dog called Doogal (google Magic Roundabout to find him)
      Ann

    3. Interesting thoughts about the aquarium drainage. I think I will just not put in the entire 500 gallons of water😁. I also have a shearing stand from when I had angora goats to put the tank on to lift it off the ground.
      I have Wensleydale and Debouillet sheep. I love felting the locks of the Wensleydales. The Debouillet (Merino Rambouillet cross) is also good to felt. I highly recommend no poodle cut barking sheep🤣😂!
      I just wish I had an IKEA close to me.

    4. Showing my age! Not that I ever watched any of the programmes – no TV! When I heard that Dougal looked like a wensleydale sheep I looked it up on YouTube!
      A.

  6. Looks great Jan. And you reminded me that I have some dirty mohair that needs washing. I will have to locate it and see if I can get to it soon.

    1. thanks Carlene! it realy speeds up the washing when you can do a full fleece in one go. i look forword to seeing what you spin with the morhair!

  7. Now I realise where I’ve been going wrong Jan, I’ve been trying to wash too much at once!
    By the way, I’ve got spin dryer envy now🤢 Mine is a big old heavy metal dryer which I’m finding too weighty to carry to and from the car and workshop venues. I would love to find a version like yours!

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