More signs of getting back to normal; in-person socials week 1 and 2
As you saw last post, the Ottawa Valley Weavers and Spinners Guild is starting to do some of our per-pandemic activities. We have had our first Demo since 2019, we are starting to organize in person workshops, the guilds library is back to having members borrowing in-person and we have had our first two socials in-person at the guild studio. This last is the topic i would like to chat about with you today.
Before the pandemic struck, we use to meet on Mondays (once a month for the guild meeting and we had socials in the studio on the rest). When the plague struck it took us a bit of a learning curve to transition to using Zoom for both meetings and then socials. The library was unable to Zoom. So, when there was no shutdown, we collected requests, pulled, bagged and had books ready for picked up and dropped off at an external door near the studio. (A bit more work for the librarians but it kept the books circulating.)
We tried a number of things to keep the guild active and connected during the pandemic. I started weekly posting of old photos going back to 2002, we most recently were checking the files from the early part of 2018 (so i hope the pandemic dosnt go on too much longer i am running out of photos!! Good thing we are starting to make new photos!). The Guild had Zoom based study groups on various topic to try to make up for the lack of in person workshops. Our Program team found cross Canada and international speakers for us that were a fabulous addition and would not have been an option in-person (so the effects of the social distancing were not all bad).
We have struggled with technological options as we change from zoom to the long-waited-for in-person or ideally, a combination of in-person and Zoom. Ideally we would like to have some way for those members who live farther away or can not travel at night to participate in both meetings and socials. We also want to take this opportunity to investigate what works and may be applicable for the first in-person/zoom guild meetings coming up in September. This gives us the summer to run through options and try problem solving so the on-line participants can feel included. With the meeting program it will be more watching and less input from the audience ether by zoom or those present. So, not quite the same as a social but it should give some feed back for those organizing the meeting.
Two weeks ago we had our first in-person social. It was a good turn out, we had 9 in person guild members, with a mix of masked and unmasked participants as well as 10 on line members. For technology we tried Ann’s laptop with its build in mike and camera.
Pros; One person could talk to the zoom group
Cons; the mike did not pick up other conversations away from the lap top. Only one person in front of the lap top could hear or communicate with the zoom group.
A few more shots of what we were up to in-person. I had brought my in progress needle felted Iris (its in photo one), there was a lot of spinning happening, as well as some innovative options for plying. The bulldog clips and basket were ingenious. We could not find a lazy kate in the studio so we improvised with two magazine holders and a chopstick for another spinner.
2-8 a few shots from the fist social since we shut down at the beginning of covid
After chatting with the zoom participants it was decided that we needed to up grade the audio. I volunteered my x mass present of a video recorder with external mike for next week.
Week 2, we had Ann’s Lap top but now added my video recorder with external mike and my tripod.
Week two had a reasonable turn out, a bit less than week one with 8 in-person and 5 zoom participants (ginnypigs). this week we had spinning, fiber prep(Hackles) and felting, Ann this time since i was playing with the camera and Vid recorder. First we tried the external Video recorder/mike with Ann’s lap top then with the guild’s old lap top. (option 2 did not work since the Venerable old laptop did not recognize the vid recorder/mike it was too new)
The vid recorder has a zoom feature! which i discovered was vary slow and disturbingly jerky DRAT! I could zoom in but getting there was not fun to watch. So the concept is correct with a vid recorder and external mike but this particular one may not be the best choice (if i need to zoom in on anything).
9 Vid Recorder/ mike and Ann’s Laptop
10 the old laptop could get on zoom but the video equipment was to new for it to recognize
Pros; improved sound, more flexibility as to what the zoom members can see. smooth rotation from one spot to the next with the tripod having vertical as well as horizontal adjustments.
Cons; The mike works well so can pick up conversations that you may have thought you were having only with the person sitting beside you.
We wanted to try another experiment to see if we could get the zoom participants more than one view of the studio. To do this we signed into zoom from both the old guild lap top that runs the library programs (its ancient and i was not sure it could run zoom) and Ann’s computer. Unfortunately we quickly discovered that our internet bandwidth is vary low….. there was a lot of temporary freezing, but using two cameras gave the zoom group more options to see what was happening and from 2 perspectives. We may be able to do something about the bandwidth, we will investigate that further later.
11-16 shots from the week 2 social
We had a bit of show and tell, Ann got a new aperen!
17-20 Ann’s post appocolips apron. there were a few of us who want to look this up!
This configuration of hardware seem to be a big improvement from last week. The zoom members could see better what was happening and chat amongst themselves as well as have limited chatting with those at the social. I think our next option to try is to add the speakers the library purchased for use with viewing the guild videos. (The library also got headphones for when someone wanted to watch videos in the studio while someone else was weaving. The headphones would not be helpful in this instance.)
21 this is a big improvement over week one
Just when you thought i had forgotten about felting except for that brief glimpse of my iris in-progress, i have a few shots to update you but its Ann’s felting this time not mine. i had taken a couple shots of her background when i was at the farmers market buying her wonderful tasty chocklet chip cookies.Because i was curious i thought you mite be too, so i took a peek at the back of her back ground too. i had some quite fabulous video shots of Ann working on adding the moon to her background, unfortunately the Video was live feeding to zoom so i could not take a screen shot for you. i hope the shots i got with the camera will give you a sense of the intensely deep dark colours she is using.
22-24 Ann’s background for her little night landscape (front and back)
i hope if the groups you belong to are also struggling to figure out a blended in-person and zoom experience for member we can share our attempts and figure this out. Please share suggestions of things you have tried. What worked what didnt? in the meantime have fun and keep felting!
PS my computer had blue screened after a couple updates to software so its out to the computer doctor and looks like she will live with a minor surgery (bigger C drive) and a good internal cleaning. maybe i should not felt on the desk right above the computer? in the mean time i am using Glenn’s computer which lacked programs i usually use and I lost half my pre-typed blog since he only has open office not word and if froze in stead of saving. i expect to have this up and ready to go hopefully before 2am (i did rewrite the second half twice and had to do some sneaky work arounds to get the photos! ooh i am looking foreword to my computer back! i hope she will let me felt in the office still!
10 thoughts on “More signs of getting back to normal; in-person socials week 1 and 2”
What a lovely group! Good luck with your ever-improving method of trying to include everybody.
Love Ann’s new apron!
Ann, Bernadette and i are very lucky to live near an active guild. it was a bit Fiber adjacent as a topic, but if we are going through this others are likely too. pooling our investigation will likely bring us to an answer and we can get back to fun with fiber arts.
(i am not sure why i am awake it was 10 minits bfore 2am est when i climed into bed. but i need to get up soon so i can be off to the market and buy cookies from Ann. her bakeing inspiers great felting!!)
I want one of those aprons! I understand however that the makers don’t ship outside North America. At the moment I’m trying to find out if anyone over here (UK) sells them but no luck so far. I want one; I want one; I want one! (or a Mug, and I want 2 of those, one for my friend who’s as batty as I am).
Sorry, (sigh) I’ve stopped dribbling now.
We could arrange for reshipping but that will get expensive with paying shipping twice. Aprons may not be to bad, mugs are heavy.
Thanks Ann, I did think of that but I suspect that the reason they don’t ship over here is all the red tape involved now the UK is out of the EU, so I don’t suppose it would be easy. I’ve contacted Calamity Ware to see if they have a supplier over here. I do have a great nephew somewhere in Canada so if necessary I’ll try him.
Great post Jan and not to many bad pictures of me.
Glad you are able to get back together again. We attempted a combination Zoom and in person class. It didn’t work worth a hoot. We tried everyone having their own devices with earphones but the echo was terrible. We tried one computer as you had done and that worked a little better. But still not very well. I’m not sure what the answer is without some really high tech equipment.
Ruth, I have a son who is a techno junkie and he is of the opinion this would involve a lot of camera and computer know-how, basically we’d need to set up a studio with a companion streaming service and have a moderator manage the comments from the stream. We’re a volunteer group and the funds are just not there, nor is the know how. We’ll just have to keep muddling along like this.
Goodness, tech can really be a bother or a joy, can’t it? Glad you’re figuring out ways to get everyone to enjoy sessions.
I love the bobbin-between-two-folders idea, very ingenious! 😀
I have had my share of technology issues too. Mostly I don’t know enough, to keep from getting taken advantage of! I have enjoyed using Zoom for smaller groups, and use FaceTime every Friday to knit with my BFF. The rest is trial and error.
I’m glad you have a place to meet and good group of attendees: however they happen to attend. This pandemic has changed our lives, in ways we are still discovering. I long for the “good ole days,” three years ago. 😉