Collaboration with Ann, Dragon Hand part 1

Collaboration with Ann, Dragon Hand part 1

Ann’s Dragon hand

I did say I was going to tell you about the dragon hand you may have noticed at least once in a recent post. So no travelogue today as we look back at what Ann got me working on for our Diamond exhibition celebrating our 75th anniversary. It would be part of the exhibition at the guild sale (which Coincided with the exhibition of guild work at the museum in Almonte). I know two shows at once, can be confusing.

During the summer, Ann asked if I could make a dragon hand for a project for the diamond exhibition.  We met at the guild social, I brought jute covered wire, its unlabeled but is either 14 or 12 gauge, and made an amateur for her.  She considered it, then asked if it could be a  bit bigger. Ok, on that! Mark 2 dragon hand was bigger and could thus hold more diamonds.  She deemed it worthy, so unlike Goldilocks, I got it right in 2 tries!

You have seen me playing with wire armatures before, so if you had questions or want more info on armatures and wire gages look back through the blog posts. What i want to show you today is something I haven’t seen anyone else try.  Ann’s Specification was dragon hand, with poses-able fingers, and claws, that could hold the diamonds Ann was making.

Early this year, April I think, I had been surfing around the internet, on the other side of the planet, and doing a bit of on-line-shopping. While looking for other things I spotted claw tips!!, well the seller did not realize they were selling claw tips, but I knew they were as soon as i spotted them! I ordered 100 in Bronze and 100 in gun-mettle (sort of a charcoal blue/ gray) then later, in October, I made another order of 100 silver.

You can buy a few of a stud, an assortment of various studs or a pack of 100 studs. I figured 5 toed dragon or 4 and a heal claw, with 4 legs per dragon and maybe tail or spine spikes. That would mean the minimum per dragon would be 20 claw tips and however many spiny or tail spikes.  I could probably get a maximum of 4 dragons per 100 spikes. I could not decide between the bronze or the Gunmettel black so, as i said, got them both.

1.1-1.3)  Aliexpress vender was Sunfordfashion Store

I was going to make some samples but by august Ann asked if I could make her a dragon hand. Ah ha! I have just the thing I want to try out!

3 plastic bags of 100 each studs 2.1) 3 bags of studs in Gun-mettle black, Bronze and silver

Lets have a  closer look at the claw tips. its mettle and made of two parts; a screw back and the talon, where the screw inserts.

3.1-3.3) Close up of stud and backing

Now that you have seen them don’t you just think they would make the most perfect claw tips?

Do you recognize what they were originally designed for? Let me give you a hint; punk jackets? Stud collars? Ok maybe not something everyone looks at and goes OOOH those are cool.  I never had a leather jacket with studs or a spike collar, but the jacket still sounds cool. Originally they were screwed through the leather (or Pleather) from the back.

The studs come in lots of shapes, sizes and colours. so this might make a useful option for other projects.

studs come in lots of shapes here are depicted quite a few of the options 4.1) Various available shapes for studs.

I should show you an example of the expected use of these lovely studs

example of studded jacket with a few diferent types of spikes.4.2) I think this was listed as an jacket available on etsy. I guess the shoulder spikes would keep your purse from falling off. (Added design feature?)

Now that you have seen what the expected use for the studs, i suspect you can already see where I was going with this. I made the armature so that each toe ended in a loop. let me see if I can find the a bit too small armature to show you. I think I saw it in the bedroom, I have no idea why it was there. No its likely off with Miss Mer somewhere else in the house now.

When I created the armature, i arranged a loop at the end of each toe. Through which I put the claw shaped stud. around the space between the screw and the claw, I wound floral wire.  I then wound the floral wier ends up the dragon finger to both keep the claw affixed and give the aluminum some added strength.

5.1-5.4 shows the claws inserted into the wire loop then used steel floral weir to keep it secure.

Its not the pettiest of armatures but it worked. If or when I do this again. I would add a drop of crazy glue and give it one more twist to tighten with a screwdriver.

Last online shopping with Ann, I tried World of Wool’s “Carded Core Wool Sliver”. The previous shopping spree had provide carding wast core wool. Its sort of clumps, that may have tried to escape the carder or maybe refused to leave? It works a charm after a quick few passes on the hand carders. (for that, I actually used the full size wool carders not the pet brushes.)

world of wool core carded roving.6.1 this is one of the two options from world of wool for core wool

The jute cover on the wire made it easy to warp fiber over the armature, well easier than a bare weir armature.

adding core wool from the ankle to the mid forarm.6.2 adding core wool from ankle to mid forarm

As I added fiber I considered joints, tendons  and tried to figure out the anatomical important bits for a dragon. Ann had oked 4 claws rather than my original 5 clawed idea.

adding core wool over toes, note jute rapped wieir alows for good adhesion of wool to covered wier.6.3 working wool down fingers

I started to create a webbing between the fingers to make up the palm.

6.4-6.6 adding the webbing between the toes

I had considered the need for a tendon for the heal claw and started to block it in.

6.7  adding tendon to back toe

I had been over at Elizabeth’s, helping her set up the first draft of the Guild workshop schedule. That done it was back to my messy computer desk. please ignore the messy desk, i do as long as i can.

6.8-6.9 adding more structure to the foot

i had a lot of fun adding more anatomical features.

7.1-7.2  adding more structure to the foot and ankle

I was pleased with the shape and covered the hand in black. No matter what colour diamonds Ann made, everything goes with black!

As I said earlier, someone else may have thought of studs as claws, and I just haven’t seen it. I hope this will spark an idea and send you careening off in some new and exciting wet or dry felting direction.

NOTE: my main suggestion is that next time, I think I would add a drop of crazy glue with the floral wire and screw. it should  keep the claw tips from any rotation (one tip has loosened a bit and rotates out of perfect alignment, but it hasn’t let go!)

Aug.19th social I took the claw in to get Ann’s Ok.

Ann and the dragon hand gently playing with one of the sheep8.1-8.2) Ann playing with the dragon hand

Dragon was showing interest in her sheep……  the shepherdess looks nerves but Dragon was very careful.

Ann asseses the dragon hand8.3)   08-19-2024 progress to this point shape is good, claws look grate, needs more detail than flat black.

she liked it, but wanted more detail.   Ok I can do that, but first I need to photograph the set up for the Guild show in Almonte (which you have already seen!) and there is still guild sale and library work to do, and I have to get the Mer’s ready for the Almonte show too. We will continue with the dragon hand next post.

21 thoughts on “Collaboration with Ann, Dragon Hand part 1

    1. thanks! i had a lot of fun thinking about tendons and pivit points around Dragon’s Rist. i am still missing quite a bit of articulation but it was fun as far as i considered it.

  1. Oh my gosh Jan, you are so creative! That is a wonderful use of those studs. There would be no hugging with that jacket on :).

    1. You are rite! i had not considered the non-huggability aspect of the jacket. i may have to reconsider my asperations of lether jacket with spikes. But it still looks cool!!
      i saw the spikes and just knew they would be perfect for claws but for a big Dragon! well that would use up some of my fiber hord if i made a full size vertion!

  2. You really have an eye for using objects for other than their intended use 😉

    Your dragon hand is looking great and I look forward to seeing how all the pieces are put together with Ann. That jacket is very bristly, isn’t it?

    1. i think its the dislexia, it has to have some bennifits!
      Ann came up with an intersting project i am glad she included me in this it was lots of fun.

  3. Jan, I definitely want you beside me when it comes to surfing the net for more unusual products! Your dragon’s claw is quite an ingenious creation. No wonder Ann is a happy bunny.
    I would not like to run into someone down a dark alleyway wearing that jacket. Mind you, it would have been an excellent means of maintaining social distance over the past few years.
    Helene

    1. thanks Helene, if i spotted some one waring that jacket i am likly to rush up and start admiering it, then asking odd Range of Motion questions about waring it. they would have no idea how dangerouse enthusiastic little old lady with walker can be!
      Ann has sent me off into the internet to find info or an image, she dosnt ask too often eny more since she usualy gets overwhelmed with whatever i find!

      i had not consdiered spikey jacket as inceragment to social distancing. i wonder if spike covered mask would be as effective? i would need to find light blue leather with white trim…… maybe Zernekowitz lether would have some….. hummmm….

    2. Whoever was wearing the jacket could end up with quite an audience as you asked the questions Jan. Possibly even a fan base after your interview!
      I could see the mask trending Jan. Blue leather with white trim …. very stylish!
      Helene x

  4. I’m impressed! As a maker of a large… 2.4 metre…wet felted dragon… the claws were a challenge.. Must check out these claws. Looking forward to seeing the finished beast! 👏👏👏

    1. OH WOW that is an impresive Dragon!!! you may want to look at the longer less curved talons if you make another. look for them at aliexpress (china) surch jacket studds, or punk studs. they were chepest to buy in a bag of 100 when i looked. there were a quite a few difernt sellers, some sold in lots of 4 or 5 too expencize, some charged less but had high shipping, i found 1 that had lower price per spike (bying 100) and free shipping! keep looking there are often sales.
      after the wooefull look of a dragon hand trying to eat a cookie with out mouth or stumic i think i need to make a full size dragon so it is not disapointed by shortbread cookies.

  5. The dragon hand is amazing. I keep saying it is not my project, it our project. There is no way I could nave made the hand. You are a little enthusiastic with the information sometimes.

    1. ok our project but you came up with the plan! you also would have made a wonderfull dragon hand! you are an excelent wet and dry felter!!! i am always inthusiastic! about almost everything, its one of my more anoying qualities!
      i realy did like your spagin helm jsut the thing for a dragon to play with!

  6. What a clever way to add claws to that hand! I know it’s a dragon hand but I keep imagining it as a witch’s hand, grabbing some bat wings or lizard eyes or some sort…

    As for the jacket, fun story: I used to go to concerts where those were allowed (and common) on premises but a bottle of capped water was considered a safety hazard… go figure.

    1. i think the studs would work well on witches too! Ann wound up playing with the dragon hand and her little sheep for a while it was very cute!

      i use to go to outdoor concerts (Bluesfest). the knitting needles were convinscated but i could bring in my big heavy wooden dropspindle be couse that wasnt a safty hazerd. (?) the only music i could not spin to was werd al yakaviks polkas the beet is all rong for spinning. but it was fun to listen to. i kind of avoided the rap music but just couse it was borring. there is better rap just not there. the tecno was fun but my spinning got over twisted with inthusiasum. alice cooper and Iron maden were particulary good for spinning! i loved seeing Gretta Van Fleet, i hope i can see them again.

  7. Jan what a great idea those studs are. I’m sure they’ll be great for bird feet as well as dragons’.
    I’ve just been watching my Hobbit DVDs so I’ve been seeing lots of bird feet (“the eagles are coming”) as well as Smaug’s great claws. I’ve got lots of ideas swimming around in my head so now I have to find a stud supplier over here (UK).
    Looking forward to the next episode.
    Ann

    1. OH no i have sent you off on a creative spiral!!! they were fun to play with, jsut add a drop of crazy glue just to keep everything tight if you try them. i think they have potental if you dont want to make clay or sculpt claws.
      there are automotive spary paints if you cant find the colour you were looking for in the original studs too!
      check aliexpress and see if they deliver to the UK, i think they do there are electronics with odd not northamrican plugs so they are sending them somewhere. i suspect our plugs look odd to everyone else!

  8. Jan….everyone has made the same observations as me re – huggability whilst wearing the jacket (your suggestion as handbag keeper upper is great!), internet finds being used for alternative purposes etc etc and not least the detail you’ve managed to include re the tendons et al….just brilliant.
    X

    1. Thanks Antje, it was a fun project and sent me off in all sorts of odd thots about the anatamy of a dragon hand and rist. Ann dose come up with some interesting requests!!
      i still think those jackets look cool but yes the huggability is definatly a draw back. i gess if both participents in the hug had jackets of studs, they may get stuck together not all bad then!

  9. These comments about spiky jackets make me think of the joke about how hedgehogs – or porcupines – make love. Very carefully!! 😲😜

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